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Rust Bucket Retro
07-27-2016, 10:50 AM
I am curious if any of you guys do any back country driving in your vans? I have been wandering a few dirt roads here and there and just wondering what kind of modifications have been done to make them get around a bit better. I am not talking about rock crawling just some light off the beaten path. I was thinking a limited slip in the rear end a little lift and more aggressive tires.

kookykrispy
07-27-2016, 11:48 AM
since our vans are so light, a limited slip in the rear makes a big difference in traction. These vans can get stuck on even wet grass if you just have the peg-leg rear end.

A posi rear and some decent traction tires should open up a whole lot of places you can go

lvjjj
07-27-2016, 04:40 PM
I used to live on a very steep hill with a long curving dirt driveway. I went up it for years without any special things such as posi. Just a matter of massaging the clutch and always just keep going. During our rare snows I'd throw 4-50lb bags of sand in the back and go up just fine (going down was a different matter, and very scary). Of course there was no mud, doubt it go thru that without some improvements to the suspension.

Rust Bucket Retro
07-27-2016, 06:06 PM
Do you know what posi unit our vans take? What size and how many spline?


since our vans are so light, a limited slip in the rear makes a big difference in traction. These vans can get stuck on even wet grass if you just have the peg-leg rear end.

A posi rear and some decent traction tires should open up a whole lot of places you can go

Vanner68
07-27-2016, 06:45 PM
Look for Chevy 10 bolt 8.2 ring gear, some had the 12 bolt, and the G20 has the truck 12 bolt. Posi units are out there, but gear selection is limited.

kookykrispy
07-27-2016, 09:20 PM
what vanner68 says.

Look under your van and see if you have a 10 bolt or 12 bolt rear.

If you have the 10 bolt rear, then you want the Auburn Posi Part number 5420108 or equivalent.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aub-5420108/applications/model/g10-van

digz
07-27-2016, 09:45 PM
It wouldn't take much to get a little more confidence going 2 tracking. Posi would help the most. The one I had in HS with a 230 and open 3:36 took on all the 2 tracks and mud around here. Just avoid stumps.

Vanner68
07-27-2016, 09:55 PM
Back in the early days of vcvc, we had a member that went by the name of 68 chevyboy who was two tracking his early all over his property before he even had doors for it.

The Martino
07-28-2016, 10:39 AM
Is two tracking sland for trail blazing?

pinner
07-28-2016, 02:35 PM
https://instagram.com/p/BHABV1FPTFh/

Never a problem. Just let the wheel run free. I'm pretty sure it'll tear your thumbs off if you try to hold it strait.

digz
07-28-2016, 09:43 PM
I know not everyone can see this but it's about as off-road as I get anymore.
https://www.facebook.com/joe.sweet2/videos/vb.1118513201/10206232572629430/?type=3&theater

The Martino
07-28-2016, 11:37 PM
If I attempted such a drive (assuming I could keep it running that long) Im pretty sure my roof would fall off.

Vanner68
07-29-2016, 06:32 AM
If I attempted such a drive (assuming I could keep it running that long) Im pretty sure my roof would fall off.

Gotavan has done that, LOL.

The Martino
07-29-2016, 11:27 AM
Gotavan has done that, LOL.

This sounds like quite the story. I got my van running a couple days ago and am just about to test my brakes out and then Ill be 1 step closer to joining Gotavan in the big sunroof club.

Vanner68
07-29-2016, 01:16 PM
He tells it better, but he had a first gen that the roof was rusted pretty bad at the drip rails and above the windshield, and one day the entire roof peeled back and hung over the back doors.

I wanted to buy it from him as is, just to do a 'convertible', but never got around to it. He ended up scrapping it, but there really wasn't much left.

digz
07-29-2016, 10:27 PM
Think I ended up with the roof. Have sent pieces of it for vent hole patches to a couple vanners. Have a little left for emergencies.

Leroy Jackson
08-03-2016, 09:07 PM
I off-road my van on a regular basis...mainly to get to places to camp or places to ride my quad.

I also get it stuck on a regular basis. The front end is way to heavy on these vans, and it simply just dig in.

I have a Detroit true-trac in the rear, it helps to an extent, but when the rear wheels loose traction, even a full spool won't help.

Until I get 4wd in my van, I find it best to keep clear of all the real loose stuff ( loose sand at Pismo and Glamis is an instant get stuck event) unless I can get enough momentum to carry me through the other side. I buried my van up to the gas tank at glamis only a few yards off the main drag. Not fun.

Harder packed trails and dirt roads are usually not a problem provided that they do not contain any real obstacles.

If you pick your lines right, you can get these vans out to some pretty remote areas. One time I was out in the desert by Racer X café near Barstow I think and I was trying to navigate in the dark. Needless to say I missed the trail and wondered off into the middle of nowhere hitting whoops after whoops after whoops. I was very surprised I did not get stuck. I picked my lines very carefully to ensure that I did not stop on any of the real loose stuff while I tried to figure out which way the correct trail was.

chiliVANilli
08-07-2016, 10:41 PM
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I do a little off roading in mine. She's got a few rattles and squeaks, but does fine. It's also 4 wheel drive, so I'm not sure if you guys are only talking about 2 wheel drive.

kookykrispy
08-08-2016, 12:37 AM
Chilivan, that thing is so awesome. I'd love to see alot more pics, and details

chiliVANilli
08-12-2016, 09:42 PM
Chilivan, that thing is so awesome. I'd love to see alot more pics, and details

I have a build thread on expeditionportal.com in the 4wd campers and van forum. The thread is Lucinda build. I'll try to post up the link. I think you have to sign in to view pictures.

kookykrispy
08-13-2016, 01:11 AM
I couldn't find anything on that site. Looks very commercial. How about just posting some pics here for vcvc?

lvjjj
08-13-2016, 09:04 AM
chili, that is a man's van, you make me proud

CHRISTOPHER
08-13-2016, 05:49 PM
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08-13-2016, 05:55 PM
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kookykrispy
08-14-2016, 04:19 PM
Christopher, that van is SICK!!!

One of those photos defintiely needs to be featured in the next calendar.

Wookee
08-14-2016, 08:18 PM
Welcome back CHRISTOPHER....good to hear from you again........
The van behind your new project looks pretty cool.

http://www.vcvc.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=30227&d=1471128904

Coop
08-17-2016, 10:45 AM
Christopher, that van is SICK!!!

One of those photos defintiely needs to be featured in the next calendar.
YES! Make it happen.

YORKSTER68
08-17-2016, 05:19 PM
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CHRISTOPHER
08-17-2016, 07:32 PM
it was a 455 olds bored 30 over stroked with solid lift roller making it a 482ci that track is a hill and hole track used to get mad air after 1st hill.

CHRISTOPHER
08-17-2016, 07:52 PM
had 3 vans total302772 90s302781 10830279still have street van since 89( orange one)

ExEarlyVanner
08-19-2016, 09:49 AM
Christopher, that van is SICK!!!

One of those photos defintiely needs to be featured in the next calendar.


YEA maybe More Than ONE PIC!!!
Chris Where Are The Vans NOW do you still have Them??

Ken

TurboVan
08-20-2016, 12:54 AM
I off-road my van on a regular basis...mainly to get to places to camp or places to ride my quad.

I also get it stuck on a regular basis. The front end is way to heavy on these vans, and it simply just dig in.

I have a Detroit true-trac in the rear, it helps to an extent, but when the rear wheels loose traction, even a full spool won't help.

Until I get 4wd in my van, I find it best to keep clear of all the real loose stuff ( loose sand at Pismo and Glamis is an instant get stuck event) unless I can get enough momentum to carry me through the other side. I buried my van up to the gas tank at glamis only a few yards off the main drag. Not fun.

Harder packed trails and dirt roads are usually not a problem provided that they do not contain any real obstacles.

If you pick your lines right, you can get these vans out to some pretty remote areas. One time I was out in the desert by Racer X café near Barstow I think and I was trying to navigate in the dark. Needless to say I missed the trail and wondered off into the middle of nowhere hitting whoops after whoops after whoops. I was very surprised I did not get stuck. I picked my lines very carefully to ensure that I did not stop on any of the real loose stuff while I tried to figure out which way the correct trail was.

If you can drive one of these in the sand, you're good!
I've driven Turbo all around Pismo and Glamis, not lately, but back before T/A's were steel belted. Open diff, 15 by 8's at 15PSI in front, 15 by 10's at 10PSI in back. Steel belted don't like sand.