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BKernodle
09-05-2016, 05:44 PM
Blew the stock radiator on my 68 today.

Definitely an excuse to get an upgrade, in advance for the 350, I will be dropping in after New Year's.

Any suggestions?

kookykrispy
09-05-2016, 10:36 PM
I suggest you tell us if you have a downflow or a cross flow radiator?

Also does your van have a v8 or a inline six?


Consider adding information to your signature with basic information about your van so its easier to answer your questions.

BKernodle
09-05-2016, 10:41 PM
Sorry about that...

Current 250 I6, with down flow, left in, right out.

Will be swapping for the 350 V8, after Christmas/New Years.

Russell
09-05-2016, 10:53 PM
Sorry about that...

Current 250 I6, with down flow, left in, right out.

Will be swapping for the 350 V8, after Christmas/New Years.
This is the one I bought for my '65 with a rebuilt 6.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230828903261?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I sold that Van and bought a '66, I just put a 283 with mild cam etc. in it and bought the same radiator for it.
I ran it around town and down the freeway today and it stayed mostly around 175, stopped it never got over 185.
You can check the install's out by looking in the photo forum under "Russell's '65 Sportvan Deluxe"(6 cyl) or "Russell's '66 Sportvan Deluxe"(V8 swap)

BKernodle
09-05-2016, 11:28 PM
I'll check it out.

Also, in your opinion, is the electric fan kit for the radiator worth getting?

Vanner68
09-08-2016, 12:14 PM
Electric fan is a real can o worms.....

Some love it, some hate it, general consensus is to mount in on engine side of radiator (pull thru) and have a thermostat to turn it on, and maybe even an over-ride switch to turn it on manually.

Mechanical fan- you will need a shroud for it to be effective.

In either case, you want to run the belly pan to direct airflow into the radiator.

Vantasia
09-08-2016, 01:35 PM
If the tanks are still good on your original old stock radiator, find a shop and have it re-cored with a copper core with larger tubes in 2 or 3 rows. This costs more than an aluminum aftermarket radiator but you don't need to modify any mounts. I paid $380 to get mine re-cored copper, 2 X 45 rows of 5/8" tubes for an I6 engine. You can get three rows for a V-8, the shop even recommended that but said it would be a waste of $$ for my six. The stock I6 core is only 2 X 30 1/2" tubes. So I now have 90 bigger tubes vs. 60 small ones. I run a stock 5-blade fan and run under 180 F all day, even in hot weather, barley reached 190 F in a long stop and go 4th of July parade in 90+ degree weather....its all in the radiator, assuming everything else in your cooling system is working and the block is clean, you don't need electric fans. It was well worth the price tag.

Eric
09-08-2016, 10:29 PM
I used an aluminum one that I got off eBay for a 65 Mustang with a v8. I did a sbc conversion at the same time. I think the radiator was about 135

SAVAGE
09-09-2016, 07:24 AM
Eric, Good to see you posting again,doesn't seem like you have for awhile??

Eric
09-09-2016, 09:05 AM
Thanks, I've been around had family issues with kids relocating back from Alaska, making room for them and too little time
and money. Think things are settling down now been a trying year. Hope all is well with you as well. Hope to get playing with the Van again
now that the weather is below 100.

lvjjj
09-09-2016, 09:06 AM
If the tanks are still good on your original old stock radiator, find a shop and have it re-cored with a copper core with larger tubes in 2 or 3 rows. This costs more than an aluminum aftermarket radiator but you don't need to modify any mounts. I paid $380 to get mine re-cored copper, 2 X 45 rows of 5/8" tubes for an I6 engine. You can get three rows for a V-8, the shop even recommended that but said it would be a waste of $$ for my six. The stock I6 core is only 2 X 30 1/2" tubes. So I now have 90 bigger tubes vs. 60 small ones. I run a stock 5-blade fan and run under 180 F all day, even in hot weather, barley reached 190 F in a long stop and go 4th of July parade in 90+ degree weather....its all in the radiator, assuming everything else in your cooling system is working and the block is clean, you don't need electric fans. It was well worth the price tag.

x2

back when installing the 292 (1988) I had a radiator shop insert a 4-tube-core between my original top and bottom tanks and it worked perfectly for years (don't rmember what it cost). Last year I had the same shop rod it out and its back to doing its job. I also use a 5 bladed fan. I tried some auxillary electric pusher fans but all they did was block the air flow.

Wookee
09-09-2016, 10:30 AM
X3....on having the factory rad recorded.
That is an investment worth making.
I had mine done for my 6 at the time.
I have ran her right out to the edge a time or two .
I was able to find what thermostat temp played well with the engine I am running.
The only way to find this information out is to drive it..........

EZ Cool
09-09-2016, 11:30 AM
Here's a few pics of the one I had custom made by Howe Racing Radiators along with the shroud I built for it. Temps never got over 190 in 100 degree heat.

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/EZ-Cool/1970%20Van/WP_20150826_0131_zpsx0yptq4q.jpg (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/EZ-Cool/media/1970%20Van/WP_20150826_0131_zpsx0yptq4q.jpg.html)

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/EZ-Cool/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_003_zpsuiryipcw.jpg (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/EZ-Cool/media/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_003_zpsuiryipcw.jpg.html)

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/EZ-Cool/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_007_zps8bxeha0e.jpg (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/EZ-Cool/media/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_007_zps8bxeha0e.jpg.html)

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/EZ-Cool/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_002_zpsj4umwowe.jpg (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/EZ-Cool/media/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_002_zpsj4umwowe.jpg.html)

panelmanrd
09-09-2016, 12:38 PM
Here's a few pics of the one I had custom made by Howe Racing Radiators along with the shroud I built for it. Temps never got over 190 in 100 degree heat.

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/EZ-Cool/1970%20Van/WP_20150826_0131_zpsx0yptq4q.jpg (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/EZ-Cool/media/1970%20Van/WP_20150826_0131_zpsx0yptq4q.jpg.html)

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/EZ-Cool/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_003_zpsuiryipcw.jpg (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/EZ-Cool/media/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_003_zpsuiryipcw.jpg.html)

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/EZ-Cool/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_007_zps8bxeha0e.jpg (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/EZ-Cool/media/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_007_zps8bxeha0e.jpg.html)

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/EZ-Cool/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_002_zpsj4umwowe.jpg (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/EZ-Cool/media/1970%20Van/WP_20150904_002_zpsj4umwowe.jpg.html)
now that`s a shroud to proud of!!! very nice work!!!!

pan58head
09-09-2016, 10:23 PM
I will second the 65 mustang aluminum rad, I bought one for under $150

Leroy Jackson
09-10-2016, 01:58 AM
Electric fan is a real can o worms.....

Some love it, some hate it, general consensus is to mount in on engine side of radiator (pull thru) and have a thermostat to turn it on, and maybe even an over-ride switch to turn it on manually.

Mechanical fan- you will need a shroud for it to be effective.

In either case, you want to run the belly pan to direct airflow into the radiator.

I second mounting it as a puller 9 engine side), the thermostat and a manual over-ride switch if you go electric.

You will need a good fan setup that will pull more then 3000 cfm's and a good electrical system to support the additional load when you have Everything on. The stock 60 amp alternator with the external regulator is not going to do the job.