View Full Version : Keeping it Stock

06-07-2007, 09:39 AM
I was reading a post about finding a stock radio, and this brought to mind the whole idea of keeping your van totally stock. I think keeping it period correct is just as impressive and a whole lot easier. Finding a working, stock radio could cost hundreds, maybe the same cost of a good set of used chromed after-market wheels. I applied for Antique Plated for my van (for insurance savings) but found out that if it is not painted the original color or has had any modifications (mag wheels) that the vehicle does not qualify. Through State Farm the vehicle has to be 100% stock, hubcaps and all. Not digital radios, newer seats, should harnesses, nothing except what came on the van from the factory. So, being that very few of us have a "stock" van, I think for the purist, period correct is okay. I understand, someone not wanting a butchered up van (me either), but since our vans are probably not ever going to bring the high dollars, I say don't be afraid to cut out or add a piece of metal here and there. Of course, this is just my opinion.

Joe Russin
06-08-2007, 12:18 AM
I would be shopping for another agent or another company........


06-08-2007, 05:26 AM
perfectly correct or gnats-ass original is for the 1970 hemi cuda or the 1970 chevelle ss in my opinion. certain vehicles will command top dollar for originality, and some won't. also, vans in general started their lives as work vehicles and were designed to be very utilitarian. customizing them evolved over the years and most of the general public looks forward to looking at our custom machines, not the stock units.
that being said, look at the fire department van from south dakota that sold on e-bay this week. $6800.00 is alot of cabbage for that early, and speaks volumes of where pricing and popularity are going with our hobby. did the van sell for top-dollar because it is so original or was it because of the low mileage ? whatever the case i think our vans will continue to gain in popularity and value over the next few years, and we may even see a resurgence in the van movement.
time for me to do something else but run my gums, later, john

Joe Russin
06-08-2007, 03:33 PM
I am running historic tags here in Md, but Just liability type of insurance.
I am thinking about switching over to Grundy or one of the other insurance companys that specialise in insuring collectoer cars.
I beleve thats who Crispy from Rocka Rolla vans had when he wrecked his sweet 1st gen comming back from the "Nats" in Pa.
He got his van fixed with no issues.......
A "regular" insurance company would have totalled the vanand been done with it


06-08-2007, 09:20 PM
To me does not matter if its bone stock , A project in the work or a custom everyone likes something a little different . Thats what I like about my project , going to make it like I want it, Also respect and admire someone elses project. Bill

Joe Russin
06-09-2007, 09:47 AM
the cool thing about customizing or restoreing a van is you have a little more leway in building what you want.

you build lets say a Camaro from the same era.Shure you can find allot more parts but when you get it done it will look allot like the 5 other Camaros at the show field.Those guys were buying the same parts you did during there restoration project.The color might be different and the engine combo might be a little different the quaolity of the build can deffinatly vari.At the end of the day its still a Camaro.

A van on the other hand due to the fact they were work vehicals and had bare insides.There is allot more room for creativity.The only limit is your skills.
Even a stock cream puff Sport Van Deluxe has room for improvements and up grades.

I also beleve thats why these vans draw soo much attention.The are one of the most unique rides out there.


06-13-2007, 04:50 PM
i had to chime in on this thread - i love the "sleeper" build where the car looks stock on the outside but under the hood its a mean beast. the ultimate plan for my van is for it to go back on the outside as a stock sportvan deluxe (color and trim) except for some nice wheels but in the box will be a built 302 chevy/th350 combo. i'm even going to keep the stock powerglide shift indicator so no one will be able to tell the diff without looking underneath or inside.
i like to be surprised and see beyond just the look of a car to what the builder was thinking when they built it. it gets a better feel for the person.

that being said....

-64 dodge dart orig condition 52K orig miles - $2000
-360/727 sb mopar combo - $1100
-seeing the kids face in the honda i dusted off last night - PRICELESS!!!

THAT being said, here is MY ultimate sleeper (and rice-burner killer) - 72 Gremlin with a 401ci amc smallblock. make it look stock on the outside down to steel wheels and poverty caps, quiet exhaust with cutouts and no frills - pull up next to em and watch em laugh, then watch em cry when you get their pink slip hahaha!!!!!


06-13-2007, 05:07 PM
Back in 1980 I had a friend that had a Gremlin with a 304 and a three speed. That car was fast! I can only imagine how fast one would be with a 401. Did you hear the story about the wind tunnel test they did on a Gremlin in which they found out that the car was had a lower drag coefficient going backwards?

06-14-2007, 11:10 AM
As far as original and customized go in my book; if I stumbled upon a van that was a decent unrestored survivor with everything still there, personally I think it would be a shame to really molest it beyong period correct. But if it's missing things, and you need to start a nation wide scavenger hunt for original parts, go to town and build that baby exactly how you want it, period correct or wild custom. as was stated before, that's what it's all about right?