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    Tim,The front bumper was in good shape but they did press out the dents before rechrome it was $325 ,the head light rings and lic plate bracket were $85. Bill

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    very comparable to tri-city's prices here on the east coast. my front and rear were $315.00 each for straightening and plating. tri-city triple plates verses the two stage i have seen at alot of other platers. john

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    Was at the shop till late last night and the disk brakes are done.I will be picking the van up in a few hours .will post some more pics and info later. Bill
    new mounts move shock to top of axel

    brake line

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    Looking good! not a bad idea at all for the shock.

    You must have the 2nd gen dog house? When I installed a dual master into the 65 with factory dog house and L6 the rad positioning did not allow for moving the sway bar back.

    M1D

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    bill, i'll bet you are excited. it has been in the shop for a while. let us know how the new system works. i also like the way the shock mount was modified, clever. john

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    Wife and I picked up the van and the drive home was great the disk brakes are awesome ,they are smooth and stop the van nicely.The new throttle cable works great .the only real modifications on the install were relocating the shocks and moving the sway bar back a little(minor trim job on the belly pan).
    upper shock relocated

    custom plate to move the sway bar back


    I see disk brakes
    chrome bumper and head light rings installed




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    B R A V O ! ! !, Congratulations Bill. It seems that I, and I'm sure a bunch of other guys/gal/s. have been eagerly anticipating the completion your beautiful van, especially the front brake kit from CPP. I also want to give credit to your friends who did the actual work. They got it done!!!
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    66no-dice shop that did the work are friends of mine for about 33 years had a blast last night got to the shop at 5 oclock and the rest of the work began ,steve custom made the shock mounts and the sway bar attachment ,couple other people were helping and some other guys there to.I sat in the van for about 40 minutes doing the pump the brake thing while steve and his dad were underneath doing the bleeding .It was on the ground and finished at 10.30. Bill

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    Nice! Looks good. Looks like the front wheels fit in nicely.
    They did a clean job of moving the shocks without choping up the van, well done.

    Continuing my disc brake studies:
    How does the brake pedal feel for hight compaired to modern day car disc brakes? Most all other disc brake conversions on these earlies have a pedal about half way down which although just fine, some people were expecting a higher pedal with disc brakes. So I'm curious how yours turned out.

    I notice on the bracket install they had to put the brackets on the inside in between the spindle and steering arm. This has efectively moved each steering arm inboard 3/8". Thay must have had to adjust the tierod down by 3/4" to bring the tow in back to specs. Now that the steering arms are in a different location relative to the king pins (piviot point) how does the steering feel? Do you notice any different? Maybe you have to drive it for a while you probobly are too pumped up with excitment to notice much right now. I know I would be.

    Nice work, congrats on that.
    M1D

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    M1D Thank you,There detail work is great,The rest of the kit was a bolt in other than a long brake bleeding session there were no adjustments whatsoever.Brake pedal height is great when stabbed hard the pedal still has a long way to go to the floor,from what I have read some people have had some issues with brake pedal pressure .I will be by thier shop tuesday and see if I can get part#s etc but there were no adjustments or problems .If you look close at the bracket they fabbed up to move the shock mount position on the bottom it is basic and easy to fab. I am running standard offset wheels on the front and the kit only moved them outward a little so unless someone was close to or had clearance issues this won;t be a problem. Bill

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    M1D the steering arm went to the machine shop and it is thick enough they shaved off some thickness they thought it would be close to the springs but not hit and they are kinda picky . Bill

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    yes I can see where they machined. From that picture angle it looks as though they machined almost the same thickness of the bracket which would resore its position to about original. The positon and distance of the tie rod joint to the king pin center is important because that sets how much more the inside tire will turn as compared to the outside tire which must turn a calculated lesser amount while turning. Otherwise one tire would have to skid some during a turn.

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    It is so nice to have the van back and on the road,the disk brakes work fabulous .Went and put new tires on the front today switched from 195/65/15 to 205/65/15 and I could tell the difference it actually drives smoother and still has a little rake to it. Bill

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    One word
    Nice! no I mean Niiiiiiiice!!!!

    M1D

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    Cool

    SWEET!!!!!!!!!
    It is always nice to see projects work out like they where expected to.
    Have fun cruising around in her.....

    ........Wookee

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    your van has come a long way since you first started posting pics of the body work. it looks fantastic and now it stops fantastic too. i'm glad to hear all is going well. john

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    Thanks Guys,A guy allmost foregets how long and how much work it is to get these old vans to where you want.Heres a picture from 3 years ago. Bill

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    Yep they can take allot of time to get right.
    the fun you have after they are done is worth every penny/hour spent working on them.

    Driving an early is the most fun you can have with your clothes on........LOL

    ......Wookee

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    Bill have we found a supplier and or a complete kit with brackets now or do we still have to piece things together for the front discs? I am thinking of doing this again but I dont have brackets!! I would say the M1 "bent" brackets seem to be a littless hassle to get sway bar, shocks, steering to fit..

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    wdaguy I should have my bill in a few more days(for the disk brakes ) and I will get parts #s etc but one thimg I do know is that this or the others kits that are available will require relocating the shock mounts and the sway bar in some fashion .I am not super knowlegable in this area but if you didn't have to move the shocks with the m1 brackets that would be a bonus and we did shave some metal off the steering arm . other than that everything just bolted in with the exception of bending the brake lines.And I will say there were no adjustments to make and it works fantastic!
    Bill

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    Got the wiring cleaned up in the back of the van,so now on to some interior.Starting with a headliner I got the driver area started. Bill


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    Man, this is one nice looking van. Sure hope to see it up close one of these days.

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    Bill, love that red. This might make it more simple the do the overhead in the back. I did a half at a time, 2x8 foot on each side. This left about a 1 foot gap down the middle which I used finishing washers and screws to secure. This way if I ever have to get to the wiring, I only have to drop the drivers side to get to it.


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    shknbak,thank you ,thre is enough guys around we need to pic a place and have a little meet and greet this spring.
    greg,that is a great way you did your headliner(split in the middle) and I think I will go that route. Bill

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    Have a few days off work got a little more headliner done. Bill



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    I recieved my new (used) doghouse lid the other day thanks again M1D ! Bill

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    Made a new liner for under the dash.I used some thin insulation and some automotive carpet .It relly cleaned up that area. Bill

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    working on the headliner. Bill
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    pile of work done

    bill, you have done a "pile" of work on your van since you got it out of the body shop. i wish i could make such progress. keep the photo's coming. john

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    The rest of the headliner material got here 2nd panel is up and in the next one is ready and goes in tomorrow morning .Tuesday my friend the uhpolsterer finishes the panel above the driver area .Then do some trim across the ribs and done! Bill
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    Looking good Bill. That overhead work can be ka pain in the neck. For real!!!

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    greg my neck is sore. Bill

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    3rd panel is in! I will say this I will not do another headliner in any van! I would rather install a transmission or scrape undercoating off the under side(well maybe not) anyway my uhpolsterer friend is doing the drivers area panel tuesday then I will finish the ribs and on to carpeting the driver area and uhpolstering the doghose.I used a thin luan for the panels and had to put metal strips between the ribs to keep the panels from bowing. Bill


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    interiors are one area that alot of us can do at home (unlike painting or rear axle rebuilding). if you go to a car show, most times you will see people go directly to look at what is going on on the interior of show vans. i have noticed the same thing with boats.
    i am also in the process of working on my interior and have taken a litttle bit of a different approach from the norm. i have been strapping the whole interior, sides and roof, with 3/4" x 3" lumber. it is all 12" on center. this will be the first time i have tried this, but i think it is going to work out really well. it's kind of like framing a house, then applying your sheetrock inside. this layout will allow air to move around behind the walls and ceiling and will give me space to run wiring and insulation. also, it will give me something to attach my 3/8" plywood to. i will try to post some photo's at some point.
    bill, as always your van is looking very nice. i like your color combination, inside and out. you are doing a remarkable job. john

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    I'm trying steel studs for laterals 1.5x2.5". Still scratching my head on whether or not I can use them on the ceiling, the transistions on the front and rear dont lend themselves to rigid steel to well easily.
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    That steel is an interesting idea.
    Should be much lighter.
    Charley
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    Was nice out today so got the van out for a drive ,went to a car show and after seeing some awesome rides I had to
    do something so I put new tires on the rear of my van.Went 2 sizes bigger (255/60/15) Bill
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    I like the raked look. I been thinking about changing my wheels out and going with something wider in the rear.

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    i love the "bigs 'n littles". it just gives the van that "gasser" look.

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