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    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Stillllll Shiny!
    Gregg Groff


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    1968 Chevy G20 108 panel Now with 454 power!

    1965 Chevy G10 panel- OHC Pontiac inline 6

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    Brake Pull

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    Sounds like the wheel cylinders may be sticking. Please don't take chances with your brakes, shipping front clips can be a workout. The next one could cost you double the price of the first one. ;>)
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    1969 Chevy 108 Display 307 CID THM 350 Power Brakes 3.73 Posi
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    Ok did a thorough inspection and readjustment.
    Went to take her for a test drive and now the throttle linkage has froze up.
    I was able to get around the block fast enough to feel the brakes are not pulling.
    HOWEVER now the throttle linkage is seizing up.
    She is just pissed at me for not paying any attention to her.
    Back up on stands .Pull the belly pan and disassemble.Anti Seize all of the throttle linkage and replace all of the return springs.
    This is the first time this part of the van has given me any issues
    She really does not like to set and not be driven.

    The last time I replaced the front brakes on this old girl and missed the Nationals in NY, because I could NOT get a replacement wheel cylinders the shoes looked like this

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    I changed brands and supply houses.
    The current shoes look great.All the lines, hoses, master cylinder, wheels cylinders have been replaced some parts more than once. I am on my 3rd set of brake shoes.2nd set of master cylinders
    I do know the way I like to drive this van is pushing the limitations of the factory brake set up.
    I do drive this van like it is stolen.When she is right she is right.Then.She lets me know she is having problems .This time upon inspection every thing looks good .The shoes are good and solid no heat cracks the star wheels where free there is nothing jumping out at me like the last time saying FIX ME NOW.One small thing was I replaced the drums the last time I was in there with a set that had a bit more meat.When I disassembled them this time the drums would not release from the hubs.Again not a big deal.They where very clean and true looking.The seals looked good other than the hubs not releasing from the drums.They are fine No heat marks blue spots..I had them turned before I installed them just to make sure they where right.
    The tight hub fit might be because these are1st gen front drums.How ever they did not have problems swallowing the hubs when I installed them they also ran very true.
    I have two weeks to get her up and running
    I am really hoping it does not take that freaking long to get her right.......
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    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    I was able to get an early start on today's to do list on the van.
    It has been crazy hot around here lately.
    I got her back up on jack stands and pulled the belly pan.

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    Like the brakes there is nothing really looking out of place crazy rusty to stiffen up the throttle linkage.
    the factory clip that holds the throttle linkage to the pelddle is still in place

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    I unhooked the rod from the peddle assembly and gave the peddle assembly a good soaking down with some good old Liquid Wrench.
    I also gave the bell crank assembly at the dog house the same treatment.
    I will let these parts set over night and see how they act Thursday morning.
    These parts have never given me any issues as long as I have driven this van.
    I even had a transmission mechanic cal my factory set up Junk.
    It has all ways worked great for me.
    Of coarse while i am under the old girl I see some inexpensive improvement I can make to how things look under here.
    I also found the condo my friends the bees made in the van.

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    Pretty sure they are Hornets.
    The Van has been setting here completely closed up not sure how they got inside the van but they found a way.
    They where hanging around the upper cab door hinge holes.
    One nailed me pretty good when I walked past that area the other day.
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Pull the linkage apart and put some grease on everything that pivots. The stock linkage isn't all that bad when it's in good shape. In some ways I like it better than a cable. At least with linkage rods if something breaks or falls apart you can kludge it good enough to get home.
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    1965 Chevy G10 panel- OHC Pontiac inline 6

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    Cool

    Todays rain arrived early.
    Every thing will set for at least one more day..........
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    The throttle linkage freed up.(the wonders of Liquid Wrench)
    While I had the belly pan/ scoop dropped I went ahead and gave it a coat of primer and paint.
    I still have not invested in a new compressor so I used good old spay cans to pant theses parts.....
    When I built this scoop I never disassembled it to paint the inner surfaces

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    I had to break out big Burtha to assist me in the removal of the surface rust.

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    it cleaned up pretty well

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    This time I gave it a coat of Rustolem sandable primer.

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    We will see how well this holds up

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    Now it is my turn to bitch...LOL
    While I am not a big fan of using Rustolem for painting the outside of car surfaces.
    I am a big fan of using it for things like pulleys ,brackets under the hood that need a little detail work.
    It has all ways held up very well.
    When i was in Wal Mart picking up this paint they had an off brad spray paint right there with the Rustolem paint.
    I was in a hurry and mistakenly bought paint i thought was Rustlolem Paint

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    The off brand paint just did not spray as well as the Rustolem can did.

    Advanced Auto Parts had some acrylic enamel with a better spaying can by Dupli Color I was able to finish this job up with.

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    Hopefully today I can get this all put back together.
    Then start installing my interior panels.
    I have the needed hardware for this job.

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    Cool The Beast Is Back

    Nothing like working up to the last minute to get the Van ready for a pretty big (to me ) Show.
    This afternoon I dropped the old girl back down on the ground and went for a typical "drive it like you stole it" ride...
    She did very well.She is back to her Bad Ass old self.Stopping good and straight. Good firm peddle.Even with some older high test alcohol infused gas in the tank.She ran like she should.
    Tomorrow I have a full day of work a head of me.Of coarse nothing goes as fast as I think or thought it should.
    How ever If I get an early start i should have most of the work i want to get done by tomorrow afternoon.
    Pack her up and hit the road......
    Next stop All Truck Carlisle

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    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Cool

    Just a quick check in with a progress report.
    The "Beast" ran great during the 103 mile trip to Carlisle Pa.
    Performance wise she did better than her owner did.
    By the time Friday mid day rolled around I was in pretty good pain in more places than one.I had to basically set in my lawn chair the whole event.
    I felt to bad to take any pictures at all.It just hurt too much to walk around.
    Looks like it is time to go in and now have my running gear worked over again.

    The event it's self was pretty good. There where 40 vans in attendance.
    Vans arrived from Canada,Michigan as far south as Georgia.
    11 States and 1 Country where in attendance
    Captain Kurk from Custom Vans Com did a great job working with the guys from Carlisle to get us a pretty good spot in the big pavilion.
    There where also vans running up the hill from the pavilion.

    I really have to thank my wife Mary for actually telling me to STOP working on the house and get the Van ready for the show.
    As usual I under estamated the time it would take to get the van ready.If i would have started when she told me to. I would have been farther along......
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    I borrowed a picture......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookee View Post
    The throttle linkage freed up.(the wonders of Liquid Wrench)
    While I had the belly pan/ scoop dropped I went ahead and gave it a coat of primer and paint.
    I still have not invested in a new compressor so I used good old spay cans to pant theses



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    what is needed on the old compressor? I have one with a bad motor, already made one from two old ones so wasn't worth buying a new motor, but if your motor is good, throw it on there and use up what life is left in it.
    '64 chevy, 292 40 over, 206/526 cam, 2004r trans. 9.75:1, dual webbers, Langdon cast headers, 1.94 valves

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    Cool

    Electric motor is good the pump it's self locked up........
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookee View Post
    Electric motor is good the pump it's self locked up........
    compressor pump is fair to good, worked for what I needed it to do. pm your address and I will ship it down, might be a week or more but yours if you want it.
    '64 chevy, 292 40 over, 206/526 cam, 2004r trans. 9.75:1, dual webbers, Langdon cast headers, 1.94 valves

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    or take the whole thing, might be able to get it near Baltimore
    '64 chevy, 292 40 over, 206/526 cam, 2004r trans. 9.75:1, dual webbers, Langdon cast headers, 1.94 valves

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    Cool

    This weekend the old girl needs to earn her keep.
    Family party.Party supplies need to be hauled in the van......

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    This vans biggest fan

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    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Joe those interior panels you installed are cool ,more pics when you can . Enjoy ! Bill
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    Thank you Bill
    right now theyare being held up with......

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    She did good.
    All systems got a nice little exercise /work out.
    Every body played nice together.
    Good firm brake peddle. no pulling

    I had to stop and get some drink mix.
    Me and Dixie just got settled in the front of the van.
    A Ford Explored pulled head first one full space over from me.
    In his first statement he had the year of the van correct.I did not turn the key yet.
    He ask what engine was I running ?
    I told him a 350
    I then heard a my buddy had one of these conversations.
    We talked about the paint color' Omaha orange.
    His buddies was baby blue.
    I reached down and turned the key.
    she fired right to life.
    She knew somebody was watching.No valve seal puff of smoke.
    The flow master twins purred there sweet tune at the correct idle speed.
    The gentleman got one of those smiles on his face.Shook jis head
    "sounds good"
    I let him know it was nice talking to him.
    Dropped her in gear and idles off.....
    I let her know I loved her by winding out 1st gear up the hill from the Railroad Crossing.
    I just love driving this van........
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    We put her to work again this week end.
    We are working on redoing a bedroom in my house.New flooring, trim, paint.the usual home improvement type tasks.
    There is a ply wood sub floor in the room.how ever we are laying a layer of Luan down just to give the new flooring a nice fresh base to lay one..
    This van is actually pretty handy to haul 4X8 sheets of plywood in.
    The wife thinks the 3rd gen is a big P.O.S.It did not get chosen to do the Home Depot run.
    The van will also serve as a temporary storage facility while this project works its way to completion.

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    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Orange is cool in weird lighting !
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    It looks better than it actually is under neon lights.....

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    Cool

    Saturday I took the "Beast" out for a little ride to my Grand Daughters school.
    They where holding a fund raiser.
    A bake sale, car wash event.The van was a big hit with all the little heads washing cars.
    My grand daughter was right there with a big smile on her face.
    Quite few of the parents in attendance also paid me some very nice complements on the van.

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    As usual I was running late.
    My plans where to get the "Beast" washed.Then take my grand daughter for a ride up to Keystone Madness for a quick visit with Vanners.
    The ride to PA never happened.
    I did score some yummy muffins from the bake sale.
    They did a good job washing her up.It is raining here today.
    It all ways rains right after i get the van looking nice.....
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    The van looks great Wookee!
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    Thanks Jim,she is starting to shape up nicely......
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    I had my inexpensive Nikon camera in my hand.the van wanted it's picture taken......LOL

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    I am moving things around the old homestead. Prepping to go down for a few months.
    If every thing goes right the "Beast" will spend this winter inside of my shop.
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Took a ride to pa to pick up my newly recovered sun visors.
    I need to find out what the correct size of the machine screws that the General used to mount them.
    There where never any sun visors in my van when I got it.......
    I could also use the little clips that went on the ends these helper to support the visor and helped to hold them up in place.
    thanks in advance for any help......
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    Hey Wookee, What is your rear tire size? They fill the opening good...I'm guessing they don't rub...
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    275/60/ 15 futura tires. mounted on a pair of Corvette 8 inch rallies.....They have a 4 inch back space
    I originally had a pair of BF Goodrich tires.
    They do rub a bit.When the van is fully loaded with a weeks worth up camping gear.
    the BFG's where a broader tire at the tread line.
    Her sweet spot is right at 75 mph.
    The BFG's would rub right at where the edge of tread was just starting to roll into the side wall.
    The complete factory inner fender well is still in place.
    The Futura's outer edge roll a little more.The factory outer flange has dug into the tread a bit more.
    All most like a factory speed control device.
    If they scuffed any deeper the local tire people will not fix them if something happens to them.
    This pair did balance out really true.
    It might sound weird,some times you really don't notice the dips in the road until you run through them.
    At convoy speeds she does fine.No rubbing at all full loaded
    Empty she does not rub at all.
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Cool BFG Futura Tire Fitment

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    I had to move the "Beast" out of the reach of all of the trees on and around my homestead.
    Here is a couple of pictures of the new sun visor covers that Kurk from Custom Vans made for me.
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    Sorry about my fat hands in the picture.
    I need 6,10-18 X 1/2 screws with counter sink heads to mount these babies.....
    I see a trip to my favorite hardware store in my near future.
    A big THANK YOU goes out to Kustomizer for turning a pair of these loose.

    More interior work

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    Branson Missouri is calling my name.
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    Cool

    I found some cool looking cedar planks in this box so far.
    I am redoing the face plate on my Bow Tie lights that I did quite a few years back.

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    I also plan to run the cedar on the center section of my interior
    Back in the early 80's I used a two part Urathane finish on the dash of Early Times.

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    Back then clocks made out of Cypress Trees where popular.
    This product was mixed together and actually poured onto the chunk of wood you wanted to finish.It self leveled and made a deep finish on the wood you where working on.
    If any one has a lead to where I can find this product please let me know.
    I can fall back to the trusty polyurethane.It will take a bunch more coats to get that look the pour on product provided

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    Cool Proud member of the messy garage club

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    They are calling for some white death Friday.
    move all the cars and trucks up the drive way tomorrow.
    way less shoveling that way
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    While my body is down I can't stop my brain from working......LOL.
    the van still is looking good on the out side.
    I did notice a small bubble in the paint on an area I know I did not work.
    when I do get back to work on her.I plan on going full bore on the interior.
    I want to have some more sewn diamond pleat panels made up.At least the two cargo barn doors.
    because I can get carpet cheap from Ollies Good Stuff Cheap..Actual name of the store.
    New black carpet might come first.
    Because I never glued the carpet to the luan panels I made up .Stripping the old carpet off of them is not a bad job.
    I also want to make a couple of cedar panels up, to high light the interior and add some color to the basic black.
    I am still debating about front seats.the local pick and pull has a nice selection for 60.00 a piece.It will cost me a bit more than that to have a set of Camaro high backs I have here recovered..
    I all ready have the "Beast" preregged for Carlisle Truck National.(I missed this event last year)
    Hopefully, If I get back up on my feet by the first of the year.I can have the old girl ready for this event.
    The Van Nationals are still up in the air.
    I would like to take both vans to this event.How ever that would require Mary to drive Big Red for 10 hours.
    I need to get a couple of things sorted out before we can make a decision on what van or vans we want to take to this event.
    I know for sure the "Beast" can make the trip out.How ever I hope to have big red ready for long distance van runs and road trips.
    I am hoping to see every body again next season

    ........Wookee
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    There is a company in Maryland called FR Conversions. They build handicap vans. All the midship seats are taken out of brand new Dodge/Chrysler minivans to fit the wheelchair. These are them in the picture. All I had to do to get them to fit is remove the Outside armrest. Call them I bet you can pick up some cheap. And I can send you a pattern for the bolts if you need it. You can see more pictures of my install on my facebook page. MY65GMC.

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    Those are nice looking seats.......
    Being a retired welder fabricator mounting seats to bases are not a problem for me.
    Post or PM me this companies number.
    I would not mind taking a look at there stock.
    I also live in Maryland...
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