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    1st Generation Driver door window mechanism

    My window is off track and i have to use one hand to guide it to roll straight up.
    I reached in there and found the window channel/track is broken and just dangling in there. The base is broken off the bolt from rust.

    I did some search and saw that Wookee had some connection in getting a whole kit.

    Does anybody have a diagram of how the whole thing work?
    I'm not even sure if i'm missing any seals and fuzzies.

    Maybe i just need to replace the channel?

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    I would try first to make a new L-shaped tab and re-attach at the bottom. If you need the whole guide channel you will probably need to get it from a parts van. I don't think the non-rubber parts are being reproduced????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optik View Post
    I would try first to make a new L-shaped tab and re-attach at the bottom. If you need the whole guide channel you will probably need to get it from a parts van. I don't think the non-rubber parts are being reproduced????

    Thanks! I will give that a shot.

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    Had the same rusting out problem, so I did rivit an "L" bracket at the bottom to re-attach it. So, when you re-attached it, it moves the channel tight against the window. My window kept winding itself down while driving. Since I couldn't afford new channels and fuzzies, I just got some weatherstripping rolls from the hardware store and stuffed it into the channels all the way around. Has been working fine for quite a while now. The winder handle was also real loose from decades of wear, so I cut a piece of wood the width of the gap, drilled a hole in it, put it between the handle and door, kinda hokey, but it works.
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    if the window drops when you are driving it is likely a spring issue. mac has a fix for that.

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    If there was supposed to be a spring it's long gone. What's it look like and where does it go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVJJJ View Post
    If there was supposed to be a spring it's long gone. What's it look like and where does it go?
    It's a wound coil on the back of the regulator about 2-3" diameter. Similar to a clock spring.
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    Red face Thats the obvious one..

    The other is hidden.
    And helps with the automatic uppy downy problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LVJJJ View Post
    Had the same rusting out problem, so I did rivit an "L" bracket at the bottom to re-attach it. So, when you re-attached it, it moves the channel tight against the window. My window kept winding itself down while driving. Since I couldn't afford new channels and fuzzies, I just got some weatherstripping rolls from the hardware store and stuffed it into the channels all the way around. Has been working fine for quite a while now. The winder handle was also real loose from decades of wear, so I cut a piece of wood the width of the gap, drilled a hole in it, put it between the handle and door, kinda hokey, but it works.
    Wow! we have the same problem with the door. I will be doing what you did, "L" bracket as recommended and then rivet. I don't have a rivet tool, so i have to go buy one next weekend.
    My window also kept winding itself down. So, i'll have to investigate that wound coil Macsdoghouse mentioned. All this stuff is such a mystery to me, that's why i was hoping to find a diagram of how the whole thing work.

    Good idea about the winder handle. I will probably do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optik View Post
    It's a wound coil on the back of the regulator about 2-3" diameter. Similar to a clock spring.
    Oh, I've still got that one, but it doesn't keep the window from winding down by it's self. Mac, what hidden spring?

    I didn't see anyother spring when I checked the passenger window that still works, so it has to be the fuzzies and weatherstripping that holds the window up?
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    It's well hidden, you have to drill the rivets that hold the drive gear to the housing and in the drive gear housing you'll find the wound spring........don't try this without staking or gripping the exposed spring to relieve tension. If you don't, things go flying and dents happen and blood will flow. I've got an idea how to tighten up this little problem but I'm gonna give MAC a call and gain advice.

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    Lightbulb LOL!!!

    Start popping rivets out of that thing and watch out for fingers and eyes and stuff
    You have a little mini guillotine in your hands...
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    I think I'll pass, all the weatherstripping is doing the job.
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    Wink

    Quote Originally Posted by LVJJJ View Post
    I think I'll pass, all the weatherstripping is doing the job.
    Yea I agree. after the timing cover thing
    I would pass too...
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    Guide channel

    Quote Originally Posted by Optik View Post
    I would try first to make a new L-shaped tab and re-attach at the bottom. If you need the whole guide channel you will probably need to get it from a parts van. I don't think the non-rubber parts are being reproduced????
    Hey Optik,

    Finally got around to fixing the window issue.
    Riveted an L tab. Works great!

    Thanks for the advice!!
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    Great job, glad that worked for you!!!!

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