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    I went with the Speedway crossmember, for $60 I couldn't beat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanner68 View Post
    I went with the Speedway crossmember, for $60 I couldn't beat it.

    Hey Gregg, how many inches is the drop on that one? I've see people say they used a 6" and others that say they used a 8". If I remember correctly.
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    That is an 8" drop. I wanted to have 2 bolts through the frame, and I am going to add an angle iron bracket to pick up the other two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanner68 View Post
    That is an 8" drop. I wanted to have 2 bolts through the frame, and I am going to add an angle iron bracket to pick up the other two.
    Good option and something for me to think about. Thanks Gregg
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    Coop, all is well. I recently moved from Ct to Mass. I am now a Masshole lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coop View Post
    Hey Gregg, how many inches is the drop on that one? I've see people say they used a 6" and others that say they used a 8". If I remember correctly.

    hey mike i did the 8 inch drop on my van also !!! cheap and easy to fab brackets !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by panelmanrd View Post
    this is the crudest one I have built, the newest one was done out of 1/8 x 1 angle iron and looks much better,
    just can`t find a pic of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ron bonomo View Post
    Coop, all is well. I recently moved from Ct to Mass. I am now a Masshole lol
    LMAO! Glad to hear it Ron
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    Quote Originally Posted by flat nose vanner View Post
    hey mike i did the 8 inch drop on my van also !!! cheap and easy to fab brackets !!!!
    I am really considering it. I like the idea of hanging it from the stock location and making it myself so I am going to give it a go. All it is going to cost me is my is my time, like I have any LOL. If I fail I will go with the cross member option. Thanks for giving me another option that has been proven to work. It is good to have a back up plan.
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    tranny mount mockup

    I made a model out of some sheet metal of my tranny bracket. After talking to some of you about this I decided 1/4" steel all the way around was a bit of an over kill. I am going to make the top and the sides out of 3/16" flat steel and the bottom with 1/4" flat steel. Still an over kill but I like having the piece of mind that it is not going anywhere or going to flex, twist, or bend. I am going to make this in two pieces. First the top part will be the upside down V with the tubing. The second part being the two straight side pieces with the bottom. This way I can put the top in place with the bushings and all in place. Then bolt the bottom piece on to the tranny jack it up to meet the top of the bracket. Then mark what ever needs to be grinded down to get the angle I need. Grind it. Bolt and jack it back up and hopefully be good to tack wield it. Lastly drop the now whole bracket out one last time to finish the wielding of the bottom and top pieces and put it back in for the last time. I want to do this in two pieces because even though I have the tranny pan sitting level. The part that the tranny mount would bolt to is on a slight angle. As I am typing this I am thinking I could just leave the bottom piece off of the rest of the bracket and do the same thing. Might be a better way to go.
    Here is what I made. Looks a little like the pic I drew. It's funny every time I straighten out the inside of the van I mess it up again LOL.

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    In this last pic it looks like I made a little house for my tranny to sit in.
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    Is there a particular reason you wish to use the stock mounting point? Just like a challenge?

    If so, by all means go for it. If it's just to avoid drilling holes in the frame rail, that's a lot of skull scratchin to go through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanner68 View Post
    Is there a particular reason you wish to use the stock mounting point? Just like a challenge?

    If so, by all means go for it. If it's just to avoid drilling holes in the frame rail, that's a lot of skull scratchin to go through.
    Yes, The challenge. I like to test myself to see if I can do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coop View Post
    Yes, The challenge. I like to test myself to see if I can do it.
    Cool. I can relate to that. I've seen to many people frustrate themselves trying to adapt stuff to these vans thinking it will be 'easier'. Myself included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanner68 View Post
    Cool. I can relate to that. I've seen to many people frustrate themselves trying to adapt stuff to these vans thinking it will be 'easier'. Myself included.
    LOL. I know what you mean I tend to over think things sometimes and cause myself unneeded aggravation. This shouldn't be to bad I hope LOL.
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    As promised

    As I promised I made a video of the second start up. Sorry for it being upside down for some reason. Also the volume is a bit low so turn it up. It sounds best if you have some external speakers. As soon as it uploads to YouTube. To Be continued......................................... ............. Ok here it is. It's not upside down now but the sound still sucks. Sorry
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    I suck!

    I need to learn to take better video LOL.
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    Haven't had a cell phone yet that will take decent audio of an engine.
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    Looks & sounds great Coop, congrats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanner68 View Post
    Haven't had a cell phone yet that will take decent audio of an engine.
    It was the wife's phone. My phone is over 10 years old LOL. I'm sure it was partly my fault. When it comes to all these new phones I am an idiot. The video sounds good with my headphones on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No1rascal View Post
    Looks & sounds great Coop, congrats!
    Thanks a lot Scott.
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    Yeah. It looks and sounds great. Engines are definitely hard to capture with phone audio.
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    Cool

    A big ATTA BOY goes out to you Coop......
    a test drive is right around the corner now.
    I have all ways said a test drivwe with a freash engine is all most as good as sex.

    I did notice you are not running a fan on your new engine????
    Is there a remote pusher fan on the front of the radiator?
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiley View Post
    Yeah. It looks and sounds great. Engines are definitely hard to capture with phone audio.
    Thanks Smiley, It's been a long time coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookee View Post
    A big ATTA BOY goes out to you Coop......
    a test drive is right around the corner now.
    I have all ways said a test drivwe with a freash engine is all most as good as sex.

    I did notice you are not running a fan on your new engine????
    Is there a remote pusher fan on the front of the radiator?
    Thanks Joe, No remote fan. I have a 6 or 7 (I can't remember ATM) blade clutch fan that will be going on there. I just didn't install it yet because I don't want the clutch to hit my nice new radiator. It sits like a 1/4" away from the radiator and I don't want to take the chance of it hitting as I am jacking up and down the tranny to make and install the tranny hanger. It might have been fine but better safe then sorry LOL.
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    Cool

    Very cool I understand completely.
    Many moons ago. One of my first decent paying jobs was in a garage that did transmission work,along with general mechanical repairs.
    When water pump replacement jobs came in.The boss all ways had me pull the radiator out as an extra precaution to keep from damaging it.
    Of coarse this was back when front wheel drive side winder engines where not on the road yet...
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookee View Post
    Very cool I understand completely.
    Many moons ago. One of my first decent paying jobs was in a garage that did transmission work,along with general mechanical repairs.
    When water pump replacement jobs came in.The boss all ways had me pull the radiator out as an extra precaution to keep from damaging it.
    Of coarse this was back when front wheel drive side winder engines where not on the road yet...
    That was smart of him. I doubt most mechanics now adays would even think of doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coop View Post
    That was smart of him. I doubt most mechanics now adays would even think of doing that.
    Probably wouldn't do it because it adds an hour or so to the job, and they quote book rate for repair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanner68 View Post
    Probably wouldn't do it because it adds an hour or so to the job, and they quote book rate for repair.
    This and I don't think they would even think of doing it. Around here anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coop View Post
    This and I don't think they would even think of doing it. Around here anyway.
    Probably.

    I was going to get struts replaced on my wife's Aztek, the first 3 places I have been to flat out refused to work on the car. Still looking.
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    Smile Tranny hanger

    The tranny hanger is all made up thanks to the help of my good friend Chester over at Mac Tech Fabrication. He was a huge help in helping me turn my model into a reality. I hope the weather holds up tomorrow so I can get this in the van (fingers crossed).
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    We made the bottom piece a 1/4" longer and 1/4" wider then my model. I did this so when I mate the two pieces together. I can mark it up in the van and trim off what I don't need (left myself a little margin for error) Then wield it all together.
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    My new Goalie mask could use some VCV graphics. I think I have just the thing.
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    This will have to do for now until I can get it painted.
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    very nice job. much stronger looking than the ones i build, and i
    have not had an issue from mine. yours should do just fine!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by panelmanrd View Post
    very nice job. much stronger looking than the ones i build, and i
    have not had an issue from mine. yours should do just fine!!!
    Thanks a lot. I hope so too LOL. I know it's stronger then it needed to be, but I had the resources to build it. So why not make it as strong as possible.
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    Smile Tranny hanger in, Starting on the shifter.

    On Friday the weather was crap cold and rainy but I wasn't going to let it stop me from at least getting my tranny hanger done. Inbetween the hard rain and the light rain I got under the van bolted the top part of the tranny hanger in. Then bolted the bottom plate to the tranny, jacked it up, and mark the sides of the hanger to trim it down for the correct angle. Now I could take it back out cut it, reinstall, and check the alignment of the drive shaft. I had some time before my friend Eric could get to my house with his wielder so I changed into some dry clothes and did some laundry. Eric got to my house around 4:00 and it was time for me to get wet again. I tacked the bottom pate on and pulled out the hanger again. Then Eric wielded it the rest of the way for me. My wielding skills are slim and I don't trust myself to wield something so important. Lastly I reinstall it again and put in the driveshaft. I will have to take it out one more time to paint it but it is done.
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    On Sat. I was in some pain from laying on the cold wet ground and I screwed up my knee Friday night playing in just the second game of my hockey season.
    The inside of the van was a mess tools, parts empty boxes, you name it. So I thought I would just take it easy and clean it up, so I did. I still had some time to kill before my wife and I were taking the kids to see the sesame street show. I just had to do something so I started to work on installing my shifter pain and all.
    Sigh. I just got done cleaning this whole place up and putting all the tools away LOL.
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    Now that I drilled the holes for shifter and cut the hole for the shifter leaver I realized that I didn't take into consideration the dog house lid. It already killed me to put holes in a perfectly good floor. I was exhausted from the day before and not getting to bed till 2:30am and getting up at 7 am so needless to say I was not thinking to clearly. Knowing this I was trying to take my time and it was going really good, so I crossed my fingers, went into the garage grabbed the lid and threw it on.
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    Thank god it worked out just like I wanted it. Dodged a bullet there.
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    very nice

    Nice Fab work, looking good.

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    Love the shifter, nice job.
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    Looks really good, and yes, you were somewhat lucky. Almost every time I've decided to go ahead with a project late in the evening when I'm really tired, I screwed it up. Had to spend a lot of time and money to fix it the next morning. Now that I'm 70, I think I have finally figured out that I shouldn't start any new projects after 3 pm, or try to finish up after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzbox View Post
    Nice Fab work, looking good.
    Thanks cruz, It came out just like I planed for once LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell View Post
    Love the shifter, nice job.
    Thanks Russell, I got the shifter from digz. I did put a much longer handle on it tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by lvjjj View Post
    Looks really good, and yes, you were somewhat lucky. Almost every time I've decided to go ahead with a project late in the evening when I'm really tired, I screwed it up. Had to spend a lot of time and money to fix it the next morning. Now that I'm 70, I think I have finally figured out that I shouldn't start any new projects after 3 pm, or try to finish up after that.
    So true lvjjj, I was toast and should have left it for another day. Just happy it worked out good.
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    So true lvjjj, I was toast and should have left it for another day. Just happy it worked out good.
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