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    Puttin the glass in

    Did the windshield today, thats a task I have been waiting a long time to do. I think I bought that windshield almost 2 years ago.

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    Nice work!



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    Beautiful restoration

    From the small portion of the van visible in this picture it looks like a beautiful restoration job. Congratulations

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    Thumbs up

    Time for a Test Ride.
    Yea the 2nd gen windshields are Fun(Not)
    The rest of the fixed glass is also Fun,getting gaskets cut just right,then getting glass & lock strip in(I got blister on my fingers (JL)
    Great job on your van M1D
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    Cool

    Installing a windshield in one of these Wans was a job I was happy to pay some body to do......
    I broke out is a sweat just watching.........
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    nice job!
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    You guys are right. My hands and shoulders are sore today but I slept well last night. Two of us about 2.5hrs of shoving and pushing. It was alot of labour.

    Now I have to do the side windows. I think Turbo knows this is also a labour job. I started to try. the new gasket I have looks too hard. It dosn't want to do the 90* cornners without all buckling up.

    Do you put the rubber on first then try to get the glass into it?? Thats what a friend told me but it looks impossible.
    I think once the glass is in the lock strip will be a mustle job but I have the tool and with some lube I can fight that all the way.

    Any recomendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1dadio View Post
    You guys are right. My hands and shoulders are sore today but I slept well last night. Two of us about 2.5hrs of shoving and pushing. It was alot of labour.

    Now I have to do the side windows. I think Turbo knows this is also a labour job. I started to try. the new gasket I have looks too hard. It dosn't want to do the 90* cornners without all buckling up.

    Do you put the rubber on first then try to get the glass into it?? Thats what a friend told me but it looks impossible.
    I think once the glass is in the lock strip will be a mustle job but I have the tool and with some lube I can fight that all the way.

    Any recomendations?

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    how? I sent a PM a week or so ago, no responce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1dadio View Post
    how? I sent a PM a week or so ago, no responce.

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    Only thing I know for sure is to put some tacky tape or something near the corners to protect the paint for when that lock strip tool slips out.
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    Soaking the rubber in soapy water helps a lot. It also helps to have the rubber as warm as possible. Get a bucket of hot soapy water and it should go a lot smoother.
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    Smile

    She is really coming together, she looks better then new. Good luck with the side windows. I know you'll get it.
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    Go with pop outs! I did a few fixed glass and u really have to pry. The glass is a lot stronger than I thought it was. I was sure I would break it or rip the rubber many times. Soap/heat a must. I sprayed as I went to keep it wet.

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    Question Pre fit the rubber With out the glass ???

    How about a heat gun figure out where the corners will be and heat the rubber with a heat gun before WITHOUT the glass and see if they will form out in the corners. just a thought


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    One of the hints/tips I saw when I installed glass was to throw the rubber in a bucket of hot water...seemed to work.
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    glass

    Tried soap and hot water without much luck , if I wasn't putting the old glass back in I would have sworn they cut the glass too big . When the glass co. sent two guys out to install my new windshield they spent 45 minutes trying to install my door glass and left saying it was too time consuming and would throw them off schedule . The next day they sent out a third guy , he put the rubber in the door first and wet it with some sort of dressing . I had him put the lock strip on the inside of the door , good thing , my curtains hide the scratches around the windows . Use lots of tape around the window . Am I making this sound too hard because I couldn't do it ? It's been 9 months and the corners are better but not completely flat . uncle ron

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    The first glass guy to look at it said there was something wrong, that the rubber wasn't right. everybody has an oppinion.

    For the fixed glass.

    I did one back door tonight. Took three hours because I put it in four times practising different ideas and I even tryed cussing it in four different lanuages english, french, spanish and german but that didn't change much.

    Alot of the rubber you get today is more like soft plastic because, well' its probobly cheeper to make. So it requires different install techniques.

    First thing is you have to have the right size seal and the right size lock strip . There are many sizes and the wrong size will be much harder if not impossible to install.

    Fit the rubber around the frame first making sure its pounded into the corners and is about a 1/2" too long. put the two ends together and force the exsess onto the frame.

    Take it out and soak it in hot soapy water for 15 minutes. lube up the hot rubber especially in all three slits. Use dish soap to lube it. Do not use laundry detergent or any other saop that has fasphates in it. Do not use oils that might chemically attack the rubber.
    put the rubber back onto the frame. install the glass from the outside bottom first then evenly up the sides and acrosss the top using a nylon paddle to work the lip around the glass.
    with the glass in, push the glass around , up and down , in and out to get the rubber and the glass to settle into where it needs to be. The rubber corners will be all bulging wrinkled and look like shit at this time.
    Run the nylon padle around the lock strip slot adding lots of soap into the slot for lube.
    Get the right lock strip tool, don't waste your time any other way.
    The lock strip joint starts at the opposite side of the seal joint.
    use lots of lube and install the lock strip being carfull not to slip out and scratch your paint (plenty of lube makes all the difference) takes about 5 minutes to do with the tool and lube.
    clean off all the soap and dirt and whatever.
    Now take a heat gun to the buldging wrinkled corners both inside and out, don't over heat the rubber, glass or paint. with the rubber hot enough that its almost burning your fingers, use a scrrew drive handlee or your finger push the wrinkles down and back into the right shape up against the glass and steel. repeat untill the rubber looks right in all corners.

    This is not a job for a wusy, your hands and joints are going to hurt when your done. its a fight all the way.

    This worked out perfect for me and looks good.
    I will try to get pictures of the next one tommoro night.


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    "This is not a job for a wusy, your hands and joints are going to hurt when your done. its a fight all the way. "
    You got that right M1D,its a Real pain in the B,& takes Alot of time.
    Did you use a 2nd gen windshield gasket on your van,or the pickup one,for a 1st gen?? I used the PU one on my 68 ,it was Real tight & didn't seem to fit right in corners(too short I guess??)
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    I used the second gen gasket on the WS. It is a different shape from the first gen and about 6" longer.

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    Don't ask me!! I'm still stuck on "who am I?" and "What do I want?"

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    Put another one in

    put another in tonight, ony took 2 hours. Dang my hands are soar!

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    git yr tools together

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    fit rubber 1/2" too long on purpose, cut ends real square.

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    15 minutes in hot soapy wather soak.

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    stuff it on the frame

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    lube the slot with dish soap

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    corners look bad

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    insert glass in bottom slit and use the nylon padel to work the lip over the glass, up each side evenly and across the top.

    then move the bglass and rubber around to setle it in.

    use the padle to work the rubber into place and to put lube in the lock slot and work the slot straight and open.

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    put the lock strip in using the tool, going slow with two handes and lots of soap lube = no slipping and scratching the paint.


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    the corners look all buckled.
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    heat gun the rubber

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    press the heated rubber into place and shape

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    repeat untill it looks right, both sides.

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    all the corners



    looks perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1dadio View Post
    I used the second gen gasket on the WS. It is a different shape from the first gen and about 6" longer.

    m1D
    Excellent detailed instructions . Will try the heat gun on my corners . And I'm a wusy when it comes to installing glass . Your van is looking great . uncle ron

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    Put the other four fixed glass windows in today. On average it takes about 2 hours per window.

    The small side windows were the toughest to gat the rubber to co-operate in the corners. Hard because the straight runs are short and some cornners are more than 90*

    But a little extra heat gun time and I got it mastered

    I used a plastic screw driver handle to push and form the hot rubber because my hands were too beat and too soar to take any more pain.

    So I have this to say, If you have a good glass guy who can and will do this job; whatever he charges you is a good deal! because this job I classify as straight up hard labor.

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    Got this to sit perfect

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    inside and out

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    Boy I'm glad my van only has to winders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    finnaly got warm enought weather to sand and paint up the openning window frames.

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    alot more work to cleaning up and prepping these windows for paint than one might think. between polshing the chrome, repairs, masking, sanding, priming and paint. probobly 6 hours a window.

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    Thanks

    Thanks for the step by step, your project is coming along nicely, I need to do the windows in the wife project as soon as she decideds on colors, and your tips will help out a lot. Cruzbox

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    Occurred to me if someone wanted a smooth custom look, they could install the rubber with the lock strip inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m1dadio View Post

    alot more work to cleaning up and prepping these windows for paint than one might think. between polshing the chrome, repairs, masking, sanding, priming and paint. probobly 6 hours a window.

    m1d

    Yep. Over 90% of the time is in the prep. Unless you've done it, it seems like it should just take an hour.
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    Cool

    Time flys when you are having fun........
    Some guys just don't enjoy doing this type of work.
    Taking care of details can make a big difference in how a paint job looks in the end.
    Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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    Thanks M1 for all the great info. Keep us posted on the popout installs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanner68 View Post
    Occurred to me if someone wanted a smooth custom look, they could install the rubber with the lock strip inside.
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    Thanks for posting, looks GREAT!Before I get to this stage, where might I find replacements for the opening windows? Mine are rusted beyond repair...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad View Post
    Thanks for posting, looks GREAT!Before I get to this stage, where might I find replacements for the opening windows? Mine are rusted beyond repair...
    I have some
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    As I was reading this I had to keep from smiling...I lived through this installing new tinted glass in my rear doors. Painful !.....I had to walk away a few times but kept at it and turned out great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m1dadio View Post
    put another in tonight, ony took 2 hours. Dang my hands are soar!

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    git yr tools together

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    fit rubber 1/2" too long on purpose, cut ends real square.

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    15 minutes in hot soapy wather soak.

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    stuff it on the frame

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    lube the slot with dish soap

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    corners look bad

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    insert glass in bottom slit and use the nylon padel to work the lip over the glass, up each side evenly and across the top.

    then move the bglass and rubber around to setle it in.

    use the padle to work the rubber into place and to put lube in the lock slot and work the slot straight and open.

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    put the lock strip in using the tool, going slow with two handes and lots of soap lube = no slipping and scratching the paint.


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    the corners look all buckled.
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    heat gun the rubber

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    press the heated rubber into place and shape

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    repeat untill it looks right, both sides.

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    all the corners



    looks perfect.

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    m1d
    great instructions ! Could you tell me how you put the front windshield in? I have to do mine and I canít really find any info.

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