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    The Perfect Patina.

    Seen this Sportvan online somewhere. I'm not crazy about the slammed lowrider frame on the ground thing or those wheels, but damn this patina looks amazing. Anyone know what those factory paint chip numbers are? Do we have a Patina thread on here? I noticed you can see the floor through the front wheel wells...

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    That van has popped up on eBay from time to time, my guess is the builder got to that stage and couldn't figure out how to make the steering work.

    There isn't currently a specific patina thread, but I guess you could start one in the photo forum so everyone would know where to look.
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    Not slammed down but mine has faded to a very similar shade...looks like green suede.

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    The paint is the common 1st gen sportvan custom/deluxe Aqua/teal and white two-tone combo. This color scheme appeared on many '65 and '66 sportvan custom and sportvan deluxe models.



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    Member here DCollins has a Sport Van Deluxe.They had to do some repair work to the fromt of this van..
    We have not herd much from dave letely maybe he stop in and give us the needed information.....

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    1nice 68's Sport Van is a fresh repaint.I am not sure if this color is different than a 1st gen color
    They do look close in pictures......

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    For what ever reason.I still believe this is the most painted over color these vans came in.......
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    The teal-ish green, gold-ish color, and white seems to be the most common 1st gen colors, blue seems to top the list on 2nd gen, as far as factory colors go.
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    Question WHY ???

    Quote Originally Posted by TheVolt View Post
    Seen this Sportvan online somewhere. I'm not crazy about the slammed lowrider frame on the ground thing or those wheels, but damn this patina looks amazing. Anyone know what those factory paint chip numbers are? Do we have a Patina thread on here? I noticed you can see the floor through the front wheel wells...

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    The thing that gets me scratching my head is WHY is it manly rusting only where the white paint is ??? you would think with the teal under it and the white on top it would be the teal to rust First ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExEarlyVanner View Post
    The thing that gets me scratching my head is WHY is it manly rusting only where the white paint is ??? you would think with the teal under it and the white on top it would be the teal to rust First ??

    Ken
    could be in a dry climate with no road salt, green over the white and white not so good? or, with patina being the rage, could of wet sanded that area almost to the metal and let it age quickly for the desired look. maybe the next 'rage' will be engines that smoke excessively and knock? no, wait, diesel guys already on that around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExEarlyVanner View Post
    The thing that gets me scratching my head is WHY is it manly rusting only where the white paint is ??? you would think with the teal under it and the white on top it would be the teal to rust First ??

    Ken
    I think it's actually the primer under the white and not rust, maybe from buffing took more white off than teal?
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    White burns off faster in the sun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell View Post
    I think it's actually the primer under the white and not rust, maybe from buffing took more white off than teal?
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    White burns off faster in the sun?
    What they said. I'm also trying to figure out if that is the primer showing or if its rust on bare metal. It seems like the white was painted over the green as the second color, if white does burn off faster you think we would see more green instead of primer or rust. The rest of the green paint is holding up good. As suggested above, maybe the owner wet sanded the white section to bare metal to allow rust. Here is another thought...is it possible the reflection from all the windows would draw more sunlight to the white window areas?
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    [QUOTE=Wookee;239934]Member here DCollins has a Sport Van Deluxe.They had to do some repair work to the fromt of this van..
    We have not herd much from dave letely maybe he stop in and give us the needed information.....

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    That is one sweet van DCollins has! From what I can see the interior looks just as good as the exterior. What are these extra vertical chrome pieces on the front bumpers on these Sportvans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVolt View Post
    What they said. I'm also trying to figure out if that is the primer showing or if its rust on bare metal. It seems like the white was painted over the green as the second color, if white does burn off faster you think we would see more green instead of primer or rust. The rest of the green paint is holding up good. As suggested above, maybe the owner wet sanded the white section to bare metal to allow rust. Here is another thought...is it possible the reflection from all the windows would draw more sunlight to the white window areas?
    I think that when two-tone paint was done at the factory, the lighter color was sprayed first, because light over dark will cause the dark color to 'bleed' through and make the white 'lees white'.

    So, they would spray the widow area, mask, then main color.
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    Vanner68 I agree that logic makes sense. Not disagreeing with you but I find it funny that we can see green under the white in this photo. Without standing next to the van it is too hard to tell, maybe it is just bare metal that looks greenish...

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    Yeah, who knows. Hard to say for sure what is going on from a pic.

    Most two tone cars I've seen out in a field, the lighter color seems to rust first. My Grandfather had a white over black 55 Olds that came from Arizona back in the 60's, the white was chalky and worn through, black was still shiny but starting to go purple.
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    Again you have to remember.Unlike today at the factory if a two tone color came through or lets say a special order vanwas in the works
    the factory worked with what they had on hand.They have every thing there on the lines.if this was a special order van they more than likely worked with what was on hand to meet a promised due date.At that point in the game there was no windows of trim on the vans body so it more than likely could have went ether way....

    The areas circled looks like the inner door /window frame color.there are other details that would take walking up on this van to correctly see/determine where the actually factory paint was laid.....

    As cool as it looks.The whole "Patina""Rat Rod" phase is just another excuse to not have to spend big bucks on paint ,supplies ,time and material......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookee View Post

    As cool as it looks.The whole "Patina""Rat Rod" phase is just another excuse to not have to spend big bucks on paint ,supplies ,time and material......
    Yep, 'patina' is just another way of saying "I don't know how to paint"
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    I think patina painting has it's place. I've seen some very respectable jobs and also some that are somewhat lacking. Not unlike any other paint job really. I have a '36 chev coupe waiting for some love and I'm leaning towards a wild '60s theme. I still want to try the patina thing out, it looks like a lot of fun really.

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    It's all good if it's what you are into. Just too many people ruining salvagable stock paint to get te weatherbeaten look.

    There used to be a custom shop around the corner from me. They brought in a Ford Unibody pickup (NOT an E-Vanup) they are quite rare. It had dull, but non weathered original paint. They sanded and steel wooled the paint to get the patina look- destroyed the value of a survivor truck.
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    I think the look can be really cool. Some people take it too far. It would be hard to stomach a $6000 paint job on a $5000 van.
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    Back in the day, we were taking next to perfect used cars and scuffing them down to paint. That was pretty much it. I remember leaving the trim on, or at least most of it, bumpers came off, tires came off, jacked it up in the air and in a weekend....you'd have another personality applied to your ride. Not so easy in today's world. So, I have an appreciation for just about any job due to the efforts applied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookee View Post

    As cool as it looks.The whole "Patina""Rat Rod" phase is just another excuse to not have to spend big bucks on paint ,supplies ,time and material......
    not to mention body work! a car can look perfect in primer, but spray on a little 'shiny' paint and you will see every nick, scratch and sanding mark, all the bad bondo work or damage you didn't even know you had. both rat rods and patina have been way overdone. don't get me wrong, its cool on an old pick up or van that's mostly stock and is used as a daily driver, but really tired of seeing junk with some chrome added at car shows. the patina on that van would of been nice if he didn't lower it and add big wheels. once you do all that work, put some fresh paint on it. just my opinion.
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    Here's a good example of how white burns off down to primer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanner68 View Post
    Here's a good example of how white burns off down to primer

    Wow crazy. No rust on the van (yet), but burned right down to the primer....must have something to do with white not actually being a color and having no pigment. Fair skinned people get sun burned more easily...same with cars I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVolt View Post
    What are these extra vertical chrome pieces on the front bumpers on these Sportvans?
    They are factory bumper guards. They were an option. They pop up on ebay once in awhile.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-64-65-66...p2047675.l2557

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    I'm buying this one, they are supposed to deliver it on Friday 13th. I was thinking maybe leave it Patina? We'll see what it looks like close up soon. Of course I'll be posting pictures when I get it.
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    Looks like a lot of the Deluxe goodies are still on it. Chrome front bumper on that looks real nice, if the back one is that nice that's a score!
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