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    Unhappy Leaf Springs flip? Anyone tried that to lower your 2nd Gen?

    Turning leaf springs down to lower the ride. front & back .. Am i crazy?
    Any one done this, or tried it? tks Vanville.

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    If you're talking about installing springs upside down, that will not work.

    The right way to lower your ride is take your springs to a spring shop and have them de-arch your springs. They can lower as much as you want, up to 3"
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    Cool

    You can "flip" or put the axel on the top side of your springs.
    so far only one member here has pulled this trick off


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    Like any thing else this mod requires more fabrication work that most owners want to or feel comfortable performing.
    Here is a picture of a 2nd gen running de-arched springs.
    This van is a driver and has been driven to events here on the east coast.

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    A 1st Gen with de-arched springs

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    Because these vans where popular way before the whole lowering craze hit .
    There are really NO "kits" available to help you pull this modification off.
    It is up to the owner and the fabrication skills he has on hand to use



    Last edited by Wookee; 10-20-2016 at 09:12 PM.
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    That dude in SoCal air bagged his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookee View Post
    You can "flip" or put the axel on the top side of your springs.
    so far only one member here has pulled this trick off


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    I recall this member stating that his van rode very poorly after this, like not really drivable. Maybe someone can dig up the original thread?



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    Under construction now

    This one off link setup will drop it 5.5 inches
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    Nice setup Derrick,guess your going to use air bags on it???
    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGE View Post
    Nice setup Derrick,guess your going to use air bags on it???

    Coil over shocks, there a little cheaper

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    I wouldn't waste any money trying to mess with the factory springs.

    I pulled a leaf out of my front and it screwed up my weight bias too much.

    Parts are too difficult to find to rebuild the springs on the 3/4 ton 2nd gen G20's. I had to have custom bushings made. Trust me I tried every part listed on this site, nothing fit my springs.

    If you want to lower your van and keep it leaf sprung, the best way is to find a good local spring shop and have them make some springs for you that will use more commonly available bushings and will be setup correctly for the weight while giving you the ride height you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfeole View Post
    Coil over shocks, there a little cheaper
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    If you mean moving the front axle on top of the leaf springs, YES!
    Several vans exist with this modification, but I'm not sure if they all hang out here.
    I have a collection of pictures of mine in the process of being done at vintage-vans.com, but I can't vouch for ride quality yet because my van hasn't run yet.....
    Tony Duncan on the VCV Facebook page is happy with his and that's where I got the courage to do mine....I also found that Monroe makes air shocks that fit like a glove on the front of these vans..... Mine is quite low in front and I won't be lowering the rear...

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    On the show WheelerDealers they installed a generic MustangII front end on a vintage Dodge. Showed a lot of key aspects of the install, but then being one of those shows that crams a two month full time project into a half hour show they left out a lot. Like how you need to get a right hand steer rack and pinion then flip it so the connector points to the front, and also the fabrication of the steering column U-turn to connect to it. There is a guy in I believe Tennessee who sells a custom fabricated kit for vintage vans including Chevy. Not cheap and not bolt on so you still need to be a skilled welder or hire a shop.

    Also,, as I recall the show didnt mention lowering the rear as I recall. Still worth a watch.

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    http://www.scott?s hot rods.com. for IFS system.

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    Luckily I'm fat enough when I get in, I don't need to lower the front anymore.

    Besides, the factor LS truck pan already is a speed bump hazard so that's next after the disc brakes is to swap to a Fbody pan or GM Musclecar pan.

    Short of wanting to pancake your van, I can't imagine wanting them much lower.

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    I flipped my axles, chassis notch plates with a 3mm reinforced plate. Quite an involved process but have a good fabricator and lowering shop close by. Drives ok as well, i only have to change my underwear once a cruise now....

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