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    Build Journal: "Raggy" 2nd GEN 108 Retro Conversion Van

    RUT RO RAGGY!

    Hey everyone, Wimpy here with my latest project we call Raggy the Shaggy Waggy! Raggy is a mostly original '70 G10 108 conversion van with what appears to be the original 70's conversion interior, complete with diamond tuck-n-roll interior, sink with electric water pump, U shaped couch in back that breaks down into a bed, heck even a table with built-in checkerboard! It was love at first sight.

    I'm new to this site but fairly active on my favorite Astro site where I built up a '00 Safari 4X4 expedition van (Link: http://www.astrosafari.com/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=103714). I'll try to avoid the typical noob questions and do a bunch of reading and research before asking questions.

    Here's a few pics with more to come...
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    There are a few issues right off the bat... it runs like poo-poo, there's electrical nightmares everywhere, no brakes... all the normal stuff you would expect with a barn find like this. It appears to have not been registered since '97.
    Started off with the basics... according to the numbers its not the original motor, but correct-ish.. '69 307. How about the plugs...
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    Wow... thats pretty. OK so stale gas, poor spark, timing issues... now I know where to start. The carb stunk of stale gas and instead of attempting a rebuild, I just replaced it with this almost identical Eldebrock. Test fit was perfect.

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    Let's see what evil is lurking beneath those mismatched covers...
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    Mehhh, I've seen worse.

    OK, let's punch this mule... time for parts
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    Little bit of period-correct Chevy Orange paint for the heads, block and the Eldebrock Streetmaster intake.
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    So far I've replaced the dizzy, plugs, wires, carb, valve covers, air cleaner and other odds n ends. Dressed up the oil fill tube, rebuilt the throttle linkage and painted it up along with the engine bay. Here's what it looked like at the end of day 1:
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    I also painted up the fan and pulley, but waiting for the new water pump and alternator before installing it all. They both work currently, but its cheap insurance. Besides I'll need something a little more robust than the stock 55 amp alt if I'm gonna keep the house battery charged.. that's right y'all, there's already a basement built complete with isolator!

    That's all for now, I'll update weekly as much as possible.
    WimpTech... Precision Guesswork, questionable results.

    #2
    Originally posted by Wimptech View Post
    RUT RO RAGGY!

    Hey everyone, Wimpy here with my latest project we call Raggy the Shaggy Waggy! Raggy is a mostly original '70 G10 108 conversion van with what appears to be the original 70's conversion interior, complete with diamond tuck-n-roll interior, sink with electric water pump, U shaped couch in back that breaks down into a bed, heck even a table with built-in checkerboard! It was love at first sight.

    I'm new to this site but fairly active on my favorite Astro site where I built up a '00 Safari 4X4 expedition van (Link: http://www.astrosafari.com/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=103714). I'll try to avoid the typical noob questions and do a bunch of reading and research before asking questions.

    Here's a few pics with more to come...
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]35389[/ATTACH]

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]35390[/ATTACH]

    There are a few issues right off the bat... it runs like poo-poo, there's electrical nightmares everywhere, no brakes... all the normal stuff you would expect with a barn find like this. It appears to have not been registered since '97.
    Started off with the basics... according to the numbers its not the original motor, but correct-ish.. '69 307. How about the plugs...
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]35391[/ATTACH]

    Wow... thats pretty. OK so stale gas, poor spark, timing issues... now I know where to start. The carb stunk of stale gas and instead of attempting a rebuild, I just replaced it with this almost identical Eldebrock. Test fit was perfect.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]35392[/ATTACH]

    Let's see what evil is lurking beneath those mismatched covers...
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]35393[/ATTACH]

    Mehhh, I've seen worse.

    OK, let's punch this mule... time for parts
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]35394[/ATTACH]

    Little bit of period-correct Chevy Orange paint for the heads, block and the Eldebrock Streetmaster intake.
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]35395[/ATTACH]

    So far I've replaced the dizzy, plugs, wires, carb, valve covers, air cleaner and other odds n ends. Dressed up the oil fill tube, rebuilt the throttle linkage and painted it up along with the engine bay. Here's what it looked like at the end of day 1:
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]35396[/ATTACH]

    I also painted up the fan and pulley, but waiting for the new water pump and alternator before installing it all. They both work currently, but its cheap insurance. Besides I'll need something a little more robust than the stock 55 amp alt if I'm gonna keep the house battery charged.. that's right y'all, there's already a basement built complete with isolator!

    That's all for now, I'll update weekly as much as possible.
    Welcome Wimpy, Nice project. One thing if you haven’t done it yet is to drain gas and take tank out and look inside for crud, rust . If so I would either get a new tank which for that year they are making now or take it somewhere and have it redone. I just went through fuel related issues with my 65 van and had the tank redone . Might save you some headaches down the road.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Mags View Post
      Welcome Wimpy, Nice project. One thing if you haven’t done it yet is to drain gas and take tank out and look inside for crud, rust . If so I would either get a new tank which for that year they are making now or take it somewhere and have it redone. I just went through fuel related issues with my 65 van and had the tank redone . Might save you some headaches down the road.

      Thanks Mags and yes very good point. The PO who actually rescued it from the barn a year ago had the tank boiled out and replaced the fuel pump (and starter), but I think I'll go ahead and double check now that you mention it. It would be a shame to foul up that nice new carb.
      WimpTech... Precision Guesswork, questionable results.

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        #4
        Git er done!!

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          #5
          I completely ruined a brand new Edelbrock 4 barrel running fine rust particulates through it.
          I sealed my tank with Eastwood tank sealer .The gas tank has given me well over 12 years of reliable service.


          Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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            #6
            The rust on the push rods does worry me.Anti freeze is also hard on main bearings...

            Its a "van thing". A life style you have to live to understand!!!!

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              #7
              Welcome! You've been busy I see!
              Gregg Groff


              There's no place like 127.0.0.1

              1968 Chevy G20 108 panel Now with 454 power!

              1965 Chevy G10 panel- OHC Pontiac inline 6

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                #8
                Thanks for the warm welcomes and advice everyone! I certainly have my work cut out for me here, so there's a bunch of reading to do, some part finding too... This is fun!

                Should have more pics n updates over the weekend...
                WimpTech... Precision Guesswork, questionable results.

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                  #9
                  Welcome Aboard

                  Great project. Thanks for the pics! Looks like you are wasting no time hitting the items required to make a daily driver out of it. Fine job!
                  108VanGuy...
                  1969 Chevy Panel, 250 CID, 3 ring 4 Spd. with OD, 2.73 "WedgieVan" Daily Driver
                  1967 Chevy Panel, 230 CID, 3 Spd. 3.36 "UtiliVan Owned since 76
                  1964 GMC Panel, 194 CID, 3 Spd. "CrunchoVan"
                  1965 Chevy Panel 350 CID, 3 Spd. "RustoRoof" Runs but wiring bad
                  1969 Chevy 108 Display 307 CID THM 350 Power Brakes 3.73 Posi
                  1965 Chevy Panel, V8, 3 Spd. "Gold Hills Van"
                  1965 CamperVan, V8, 3 Spd.
                  1969 G20 Shell

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                    #10
                    Welcome

                    Welcome to the site, looks like your having fun! keep us posted and have fun!
                    cruzbox

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                      #11
                      Thank you, can't wait to dig in this weekend!





                      So far on the alternator front, I'm only finding 70-80 amp in the original GM 10DN style. There was a 100 amp but it was almost $300.... rather keep it under a hondo if possible. Open to recommendations as always! Faulting that, I will throw in a 70amp along with the new water pump and call it good.
                      Sample of the gas looked/ smelled nice n clean so I take it the PO did actually clean the tank. Not sure how much gas is in there since the gauge doesn't work... its on the list. At least the oil pressure works, but that's about it. Adding a tach this weekend too, personal preference. I don't want to drill or hack anything so it will attach to the column via hose clamp #redneckengineering. Hey, at least I'm not using zipties!

                      On the list for this weekend...
                      - Wire in new ignition, eliminate toggle switch
                      - Route/ wrap plug wires
                      - Install/ tune carb and linkage
                      - Master cylinder/ bleed brakes
                      - Set timing

                      TEST DRIVE!!!

                      After that, who knows, tons of stuff left to do. I'll post a pic of the cardboard once I get it started... need to find a reeeally long piece of cardboard first. Update coming to a thread near you.
                      WimpTech... Precision Guesswork, questionable results.

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                        #12
                        Nothing wrong with mounting the tach with a hose clamp.

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                        Gregg Groff


                        There's no place like 127.0.0.1

                        1968 Chevy G20 108 panel Now with 454 power!

                        1965 Chevy G10 panel- OHC Pontiac inline 6

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                          #13
                          12SI Alternator

                          Go to the advanced search tab on the upper right. Search for “12SI alternator. You will find several threads showing this upgrade. Several members including me have installed this upgraded alternator that is rated near 100 amps for much less than $300. There are minimal modifications required. I would post a link but can’t seem to do it from this device.
                          108VanGuy...
                          1969 Chevy Panel, 250 CID, 3 ring 4 Spd. with OD, 2.73 "WedgieVan" Daily Driver
                          1967 Chevy Panel, 230 CID, 3 Spd. 3.36 "UtiliVan Owned since 76
                          1964 GMC Panel, 194 CID, 3 Spd. "CrunchoVan"
                          1965 Chevy Panel 350 CID, 3 Spd. "RustoRoof" Runs but wiring bad
                          1969 Chevy 108 Display 307 CID THM 350 Power Brakes 3.73 Posi
                          1965 Chevy Panel, V8, 3 Spd. "Gold Hills Van"
                          1965 CamperVan, V8, 3 Spd.
                          1969 G20 Shell

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                            #14
                            I used the 12SI alternator for an upgrade as well. I looked up alternator upgrade to find my old post and here's some info on that alternator from that post.




                            Alternator
                            Part Number at Autozone: DL7292-9, Duralast/Alternator, Weight: 11.65 lbs, Warranty: Limited Lifetime, Notes: 94 Amp alternatorPremium reman, Manufacturer: Delco Remy Alternator, Amperage: 94 A , Application(For your 1985 Buick Riviera 5.0L 4BL OHV 8cyl), Price:$89.99+Core: $25.00, Part Number: DL7292-9 Alternate Part Number: 20244

                            http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...37_23521_4678_

                            Website on Alternator info, specs, and model numbers: http://www.madelectrical.com/electri...elcoremy.shtml


                            Update: looks like alternator is a bit more on price now. 95.99 I think but less on core $16 on core I think. ...since my old post.
                            Last edited by 66BeachCruiser; 02-03-2018, 03:21 PM.
                            1966 Chevy Sportvan seafoam green/white
                            Sliding ragtop
                            230 straight six
                            HEI distributor
                            12SI alternator
                            2bbl 32/36 Progressive carb upgrade with 1 to 2bbl carb adapter
                            200r4 w/stock auto shifter, custom hanger, 96 suburban trans cooler
                            3:36 rear
                            Front Disk Brake conversion with Dual master
                            Recored radiator to 3core
                            5 blade fan
                            belly pan.

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                              #15
                              Wow, that's only about a buck an amp!
                              Keep one foot in the gutter, one fist in the gold...sigpic

                              '65 Panel, with turbocharged 327 (originally 153 four), TH400 (originally 3-speed), and 3.31 '67 Camaro 12 bolt rear (my first car, 1970)
                              https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...meE_Jf-hgJU2mG

                              '69 Sportvan 108 with turbocharged original 250 six and 700R4 (originally Powerglide), 3.73 rear, starred in eight Taco Bell commercials
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDfPJ3xmwjY

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